transition from a fiddy to somthing bigger

Discussion in 'Mini Racing' started by bella749, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. bella749

    bella749 Well-Known Member

    I'm looking to get my 6 y/o a CRF50, and myself a XR/CRF100, so we can both putz around together... also may be looking into racing minis myself.

    The boy will be on a fiddy for a while, but I'm hoping the second bike will be something he can transition to later on. I just don't know if the jump from 50 to 100 will be too much; should I consider a XR/CRF80 for me to ride instead?

    Any other bikes to consider? He's been riding around a Razor MX350 for about 6 months, and is doing well on it. I'd like to see him progress to shifting, so I'm thinking the PW/JR50 are out. He's no where near ready for a full-on MX mini (i.e. KTM).
     
  2. gluvnaa

    gluvnaa Well-Known Member

    I have a son, but he is too young to ride - so my thoughts:

    I have a stunt CRF50 and a XR100 for mini racing.

    I would completely avoid the other 50's and go with the CRF/XR50. There are a TON of aftermarket parts and a huge following. Completely bullet proof bike...

    The 50 to 100 jump would be limited by the sheer size of the rider/bike. The bikes are pretty different and the 100 has a clutch.

    I guess you could consider a 70/80 as a in between - I assume thats what they are made for.

    With a few go fast parts and a taller seat/bars, my 50 is by far the funnest bike that I have ever owned!
     
  3. raddad13

    raddad13 Well-Known Member

    the 50 and 70 are pretty much the same bike both are 3speed semi-automatic the biggest difference is the wheel size the 50 has 10" wheels front and rear and the 70 has a 14/12 combo.
    the 80 and 100 are the also pretty much the same bike w/the 80 its a 16/14 combo and w/the 100 its 19/16 combo.
    like gluvnaa said stay away from the clone/knock off brand bikes.
    if you get the 100 look for a front wheel from an 80 so you can run 16" front and rear, if you go with the 80 look for an 100 swingarm and rear wheel to accomplish the same 16" front rear combo.
     
  4. backcountryme

    backcountryme Word to your mother.

    The 80 is only about 2hp down on the 100. The transmission is a closer ratio (as far as I understand). The main frame is the same, but the swingarm is shorter. My daughter went from nothing to a 100 (she is 13). I have seen plenty of kids at our track jump from a 50 to a 100 with no issues. Well, maybe the whole clutch learning thing and all.
     
  5. fireman343

    fireman343 It's a R4

    Ever thought of a 110? KLX or the new Honda CRF-110 is sweet.
    My son started off on a PW50 when he turned 5, and for his 7th Bday I got him a KLX.. Kinda a big jump, but it's teaching him how to shift without a clutch, and I'll install a clutch for cheap next year if I feel he is ready. Tons of upgrades and go fast parts for when they outgrow the power.
     
  6. bella749

    bella749 Well-Known Member

    Not to say the KLX/DRZ 110 is a bad bike, but I know the Hondas are stone-reliable... my cousing an I beat the shit out an old Z50 for quite a few years, and blasted around on a few XR80s back in the day.

    The boy has the basic skills down pretty well riding the Razor, so I'd rather he learn basic shifting on the CRF instead of the single-speed PW/JR.

    The bigger bike will be for me until he's ready to move up; then (hopefully) he can get on it as a platform he can learn to use a clutch. In the mean time, I'd like to use it to fart around on, use as a tool to refine skills, maybe race if I can find time.
     
  7. bella749

    bella749 Well-Known Member

    On a side note, the guys racing minis: do you have any issue riding in a full race suit? Or is a more relaxed street/motard type suit better?
     
  8. backcountryme

    backcountryme Word to your mother.

    No issue riding in full gear. I have raced a pit bike, ysr, and XR with no issue.
     
  9. nigel smith

    nigel smith Well-Known Member

    You WILL crash racing minis. Wear all your gear.
     
  10. fireman343

    fireman343 It's a R4

    Honda now makes a 110... Check it out! Awesome bike! But, I think the 110's are a perfect jump up from a 50 for a kid.
     
  11. backcountryme

    backcountryme Word to your mother.

    But you will laugh the entire time you slide on your ass. Ha. Well I do anyway.
     
  12. gluvnaa

    gluvnaa Well-Known Member

    As long as you are wearing your gear!

    I have looped my Fiddy in 3rd gear with t-shirt and sandals...
    No fun or laughing there! After the 2nd time, I learned my lesson!

    When ever I crash my Fiddy, the wife gives no sympathy!
     
  13. backcountryme

    backcountryme Word to your mother.

    I always have my gear on. Dress for the crash and all
     
  14. hrc_nick_11

    hrc_nick_11 Well-Known Member

    The KLX110 are darn reliable and have been around a long time. Yamaha and Honda also have 110s now but don't have the aftermarket support that the KLX has yet.
     

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