The Formula One Thread

Discussion in 'General' started by HPPT, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. yokohama1

    yokohama1 Well-Known Member

    Serious question. How does he still have a job?
     
  2. DrA5

    DrA5 The OTHER Great Dane

    Ferrari’s most recent success came when the didn’t have Italians running the team (Todt/Brawn). They should maybe think about going back to that. Of course having Schumacher didn’t hurt for Todt and Brawn.
     
  3. motion

    motion RockyMountainMotos.com

    Ferrari 2012 Championship with Vettel under Arrivabene.
     
  4. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Oh really??? Someone better tell Horner.
     
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  5. DrA5

    DrA5 The OTHER Great Dane

    Last Ferrari championship was Kimi, 2007.
     
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  6. motion

    motion RockyMountainMotos.com

    Damnit, I'm about as good at F1 as picking stocks.
     
  7. DrA5

    DrA5 The OTHER Great Dane

    If anyone has been seeing the subtle changes Aston Martin are doing.......all promo shots of Vettel and Stroll up until today had them wearing all British Racing Green. Today, they moved to just green hats with crisp white shirts.......soon they will try to marry BWT pink with British Racing Green.
     
  8. DrA5

    DrA5 The OTHER Great Dane

    I may have jumped the gun on Aston Martin. Today they released their merchandise lines and the shirts and gear are all British Racing Green.
     
  9. rwdfun

    rwdfun

    Neither did having the FIA wrapped around their finger and the unconditional support of Ecclestone for years.
     
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  10. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    F1 is now testing 18" tires for use in the 2022 season, they've been 13" for a gazzilion years, WOW
     
  11. Razr

    Razr Well-Known Member

    IndyCar uses a 15" tall x 14" wide rear, front is a 15x10 I believe.
     
  12. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    This, Indy car fronts are 305/45-R15 (10.0/25.8-R15) and the rear tire sizes are 415/40-R15 (14.5/28.0-R15).

    F1 fronts can be no wider than 355 mm (14 in) and 380 mm (15 in) at the rear, and the maximum diameter was 660 mm (26 in) on 13" wheels. It's an interesting time in the sport, as new regulations for 2021 will see 18-inch wheels replace the 13-inch wheels the series has used for nearly 25 years.

    Mario Isola said this. "Work on F1's 2021 tires began in the simulator at the beginning of 2019, with physical prototypes first tested at indoor facilities soon after. The first real-world test was held at Paul Ricard in September 2019, with a subsequent test at the French circuit, and one at Yas Marina. "These three tests are really helpful for us because we can get some preliminary information on the new tire, and we can work during the winter to adjust the construction and obviously the compounds if required," Isola said. "It will be a long development," he added. "Usually, we develop a new tire in less than one year. We start in March and we finalize the development in September, October... Considering the big change, we wanted to start earlier."

    Pirelli has somewhat of a head start on the 2021 F1 tire, though, as Formula 2 is switching to 18-inch wheels for the 2020 season. "The level of forces, and the level of stress that is acting on a tire designed for Formula 1 is not comparable to Formula 2," Isola said. "But anyway, we have the opportunity to have one full year of racing. So real conditions, real environment...and for sure, we can learn from that." Those forces on F1 tires are high—Isola said Pirelli engineers have measured over 2645 pounds (1200 kg) acting on each tire. To deal with all that stress, rear tire diameters will increase to compensate for what would be a decrease in sidewall height if F1 simply went to larger wheels. "That is important because now the sidewall is part of the suspension, but [in 2021] it's no longer part of the suspension," Isola said. "We need to consider any impact that could damage the tire."

    Switching to a lower-profile design will also bring F1 cars closer to road cars from a visual perspective. But Isola said that F1 tires don't have to look like road-car tires to provide a relevant technology transfer. From F1, Isola said that Pirelli has learned a lot about developing new compounds that are able to deal with extreme conditions and about quality control. "We need to produce 50,000 tires per year for Formula 1 that are all exactly the same," he said. "We cannot accept any variability in production."

    For 2021, Pirelli is also targeting less degradation and wider operating ranges for its tires. When we spoke with Isola, Pirelli was aiming to make similar improvements for next year's F1 tires, but after a few unsuccessful tests, the teams voted to stick with 2019-spec tires. Tire-warming blankets will be banned for 2021, which means the rubber compounds will need to be changed dramatically to suit. Pirelli has a contract to be F1's sole tire supplier until 2023, so it'll get at least two years of running with new regulations. The Italian brand's second decade in the sport is shaping up to be very different than its first.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2021
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  13. motion

    motion RockyMountainMotos.com

    @Pneumatico Delle Vittorie have you seen the photo of the Ferrari F1 car twisting itself into knots at the apex? It was around 5-6 years ago or so.
     
  14. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    This one?

    f1-japanese-gp-2016-nico-rosberg-mercedes-f1-amg.jpg
     
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  15. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    Looking at that left rear it may have been before they forced the teams to stop under inflating the tires. And we that never happens in m/c roadracing either, lol.
     
  16. motion

    motion RockyMountainMotos.com

    That's it! Funny looking Ferrari. In my rose-colored world, all F1 cars are red and Schumi is driving :)
     
  17. Razr

    Razr Well-Known Member

    Weren't you a race car driver :D
     
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  18. eggfooyoung

    eggfooyoung You no eat more!

    Lol. Totally glossed over the Ferrari part.
     
  19. DrA5

    DrA5 The OTHER Great Dane

    I was way off with Aston Martin. Nearly all BRG with just a small stripe and leading front wing edge of pink for BWT.
     
  20. IrocRob

    IrocRob Well-Known Member

    So are the new wheel sizes going to allow for larger brake rotors, or are the rotor sizes fixed "as is" ?
    Braking force is already astronomical, if the rotors get that much larger it'll be like hitting a wall.....or maybe just a BIGGER wall.
     

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