Synthetic Fuel to save ICE, cleaner than EV

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  1. nd4spd

    nd4spd Well-Known Member

    There was a dual fuel Ford Contour that had a NG tank behind the rear seat.
     
  2. D-Zum

    D-Zum Alex’s Ohvale Maintenance & Transport Service

    When I was a kid in North DuhKota, during the first oil industry boom up there, lots of oil companies had their trucks converted to propane (I believe).
    They drove their work trucks a LOT of miles between well sites, etc, so the tank was in the bed of the truck behind the cab.
     
  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I did that on our FL60 as propane injection for the diesel. It was like nitrous :D
     
  4. D-Zum

    D-Zum Alex’s Ohvale Maintenance & Transport Service

    Did you get improved economy from the change? Just curious.
     
  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Comparing diesel to diesel yes. Didn't have to work remotely as hard to keep up my speed up hills and getting on the interstate and such when towing the 48' gooseneck. Adding propane cost drops that of course but I think I still got more miles per dollar spent. It absolutely was better to drive.
     
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  6. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    Kris, T500racer on here, had an old Snap On truck that was dual fuel, gas and NG. He had it for a race van, used it with him several times the first year I started racing. Couldn't get NG around here but we could in Canada on the way to Shanny so we'd fill up the NG both ways over and back. I don't remember the pricing but the NG was cheaper, made less power though.
     
  7. sbk1198

    sbk1198 Well-Known Member

    Ah I see. Not ours then. We didn't make CNG tanks for Honda, only H2. Toyota was making their own last I knew (in the last decade at least). I honestly didn't even know Honda released any cars on CNG as OEM. Pretty much all of our tanks went to other suppliers who assembled the retrofit kit systems. Never seen a Honda Civic running on it, most vehicles I've seen were fleet vehicles (various pick-up trucks, mostly GM/Ford). CNG really pays off on vehicles that drive all day long. Buses, dump trucks, various types of construction trucks (like cement trucks for example), airport vehicles, UPS/FedEx/USPS trucks, etc. Those were most of our customers.

    Funny story...within about a year or so after I started working there, I went to a software training seminar with 3 of the main design engineers we had at the time. It was about 6 hours away so the company said to just take the company vehicle (a Chevy Tahoe that was fitted to run on CNG as well with 2 tanks in the back). CNG stations are not very common in the midwest, but it just so happened that there was one right across the street from the hotel we stayed at. Since our tanks were empty I suggested to the other guys that we should go fill up. All 3 of them were like "No way! Are you crazy! I'm not gonna sit in this car for several hours with 2 pressurized CNG tanks!" Those were the guys who designed the majority of our products! LOL

    I am curious to see where the H2 fuel cell technology is going though. Having worked in that industry for almost 8 years, I've always had mixed feelings about it.
     
  8. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    Years ago, our Service Manager at Cadillac bought a 1974 Sedan de Ville that had been converted. He removed everything so he could run it on gasoline. He sold all the take off stuff to somebody who converted their car to NG. I remember the inside of that motor was immaculate.
     
  9. motion

    motion RockyMountainMotos.com

    I ran into this dude in Serbia

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  10. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I've never taken one apart, but spoke to someone who had, and the top of the pistons still were clean like a new piston. I think if the federal govt had gone all in with $7500 rebates with CNG cars like they did with electric, we could have a lot of them around without all the negatives of range anxiety on electric cars. Plus I bet it is better for the environment, as clean as these are, and as bad as batteries supposedly are for the environment.
     
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  11. BC

    BC Well-Known Member

    Waste Management uses NG in the trash trucks down here. I see at least 1 a day getting towed to their facility up the street from work. Maybe it's a heavy truck thing but it's crazy seeing so many getting towed.
     
  12. BigBird

    BigBird blah

  13. t500racer

    t500racer Looking for the Bad Teacher's thread...


    The best part of that thing was switching from gasoline to NG after a fill up. It had to be done with the vehicle moving like 40 mph or it would never restart.

    The process was simple, get up to speed, flip the switch and cover your damn ears, because it let out a backfire that would raise the dead. People would run thinking someone was shooting!
     
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  14. To hell with all this bullshit. Let’s eat up some dinosaurs!
     
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  15. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    I forgot about that ! :crackup::crackup:

    Used to get some looks rolling down 401 in that thing. :D
     
  16. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

    You’re on borrowed time, oil boy. :D
     
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  17. Thats what I tell the wife all the time. :D
     
  18. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I doubt that has anything to do with the fuel they use and is more the abuse they get.
     
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  19. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    :stupid:
     
  20. bored&stroked

    bored&stroked Disclaimer: Can't spell

    $37/gallon but clean....might be the only thing that lets us still drive our gasoline powered vehicles in the future when they ban gas cars all together.
     

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