Porked by seller over a used motor..

Discussion in 'Other' started by expat, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. expat

    expat Member

    So, I bought the 675 motor advertised on FB marketplace a few weeks ago. I paid the full asking with no negotiation as I thought it was a fair price, sent the money plus the cost of shipping. The seller said he was waiting for a new cam chain guide which took over a week to arrive. I installed the motor and it ran fine but was difficult to start. (slow cranking despite a new battery) I ran the bike for about 6 miles keeping the revs below 10k and noticed after about 6 miles it was starting to get hot.. when I pulled in, it was starting to rattle and stalled. I re-started the motor to confirm the rattle with my helmet off and immediately shut it off as it was rattling on the cam chain side. Upon inspection, I found a lot of shredded cam chain guide material in the cam chain tunnel and under the rocker cover. The motor has now been removed from the bike and stripped down. The failure resulted from the tensioner material clogging the oil ways and oil pump filter screen resulting in oil starvation and siezure of the crank on 2 of the rods. After checking, I found the chain guide that was installed was for a 2011 model. (this motor is a 2008 model year) I contacted the seller as he said this was the part he was waiting for. He refused to talk and would only communicate by text. He said the motor was sold without warranty and would not agree to a partial refund. Basically because of his mistake, I am out $900 on a motor I never got to use. In my opinion, the right thing to do here agree a refund. (I suggested $500) He has stopped responding to my messages. He is trying to sell other parts here and parting out a bike. He has since blocked me on FB and taken down all his for sale posts there.. His name is Blair Ramey and he lives in Bakersfiled, California. Whilst i understand the risks of buying on line, I live by the "do the right thing" motto, obvioulsy he does not!

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  2. Jht643

    Jht643 Well-Known Member

    In my opinion he should refund you or do a partial refund at a minimum. How did you pay him? If you used PayPal you could try to make a claim to get your money back.

    I’ve never had a problem using the wera classifieds but have had and seen many similar issues when using Facebook marketplace or the motorcycle groups. When spending that much I’d want to be absolutely sure about the seller before shelling out that amount of cash. Good luck.
  3. expat

    expat Member

    Thanks. I paid by PayPal and will try to file a claim but am doubtful.
    The guy was a racer so I assumed he A) knew what he was doing and B) he would be a straight up decent person.
    I guess I was wrong on both counts.

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  4. Marid2apterbilt

    Marid2apterbilt Well-Known Member

    Good luck. I'm slowly realizing that racer or shop owner means nothing in being upfront and truthful with online sales..

    Sad to say but eBay has been better with luck of good parts.

    I recently got hosed on a leaking steering damper. Ugh .
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  5. keeena

    keeena Member

    Agree with others especially considering that it was a clear f-up by the seller installing the wrong part. A stand-up person would meet you halfway. Thanks for posting the info.
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  6. PistolPete

    PistolPete Gone sailing...

    A stand-up person would meet you all the way. Full refund and apology.
  7. Tristan

    Tristan Well-Known Member

    Personally, unless the motor was advertised without any warranty- as long as it ran when you got it you're SOL. In reality, Paypal is very much on the buyers side, so I bet they will give you a refund.

    This is coming from someone who has bought used motors that blew up the first weekend and even a complete "ex-AMA bike with 250 miles on rebuild" that blew up the first trackday.
  8. JTRC51

    JTRC51 El Speedy Gonzalez

    What is his WERA forum name? That way we can stay away from him. This community is beginning to be filled with MF thieves!!! mostly on FB, I stopped doing Friends and Family transactions LONG ago!!

    I just got taken by a guy selling an R6 tank, luckily I paid via PayPal goods and services and got my refund!
  9. expat

    expat Member

    I am not sure he is on here. Figured I would post his name so it rings a bell if anyone comes across him.

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  10. gapman789

    gapman789 Well-Known Member

    Plenty of info on his FB.
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  11. TX Joose

    TX Joose Well-Known Member

    BOLO for cyclops [​IMG]

    (I assume this is him)
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2019
  12. triplestrong

    triplestrong Well-Known Member

    I could only imagine what that motor felt like when/if he rolled it over after replacing that chain guide. It actually looks like he never reset the tensioner (if stock) and just ran the bolts home securing tensioner to the motor. That dude should put the wrenches down. Now, to play devils advocate, at the sign of hard starting I'd have started taking things apart and inspecting. Good luck. Hope you get satisfaction.
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  13. JBowen33

    JBowen33 Only fast on Facebook

    There should be a thread of “Buyer Beware” names
  14. Spitz

    Spitz Well-Known Member

    Going by some threads in the tech section I wouldn't state racers know how to work on bikes anymore than I can make them go fast.

    That's a shit ton of wear in a short time. Do you know what the correct part looks like as a comparison?

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